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Just a brief overview and breakdown of the differences between wireless Bluetooth dongles and the new Sony Wireless Adapter.

 
Form factor Low profile Somewhat large dongle
Maximum supported controllers ~4 1
Audio support No Headphones and Microphone
Average pooling frequency (under optimum conditions) 650hz 130hz
Supports exclusive mode Yes No (so far) *
Edit: I now seem to get exclusive mode without issue each time.
~ 10ft signal strength ~70% +90%
~ 20ft signal strength ~40% ~75%
~ 30ft signal strength unstable ~50% (still very useable even with audio)
Transmit power 2.5mw Unknown but suspect also 2.5mw but with higher gain antenna

 The larger form factor of the Sony Adapter seems to allow for not only a higher gain antenna than those found in common BT adapters, but also houses the hardware needed to decode audio and expose as a WDMA audio device. The refresh rate is slower, but overall latency feels faster and more responsive.

Also worth noting that the Sony Adapter drowned out my wireless BT mouse when in too close of proximity causing the mouse to become un-responsive, the controller when using BT shared the space much more easily.

Its good to have both options available until the exclusive mode is figured out (if possible), but for games that do not require exclusive mode I will likely be sticking with the Sony Adapter due to it feeling slightly less latent despite slower pooling rate.

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DarkSamus replied the topic: #1 7 months 2 days ago

Midboy wrote: Can you connect 2 sony dongles tp play with 2 controllers wirelessly ?

Can you connect 1 controller via bluetooth and the other via aonya dongle ?

If so, Can you emulate only the bluetooth controllers and keep the dongles controller non xinput emulated ??


Yes, I own 2x Sony adapters and controllers, both work perfectly.

Can't see why a combo of Sony adapter and bluetooth dongle for 2 players wouldn't work.

Not sure on the last one.
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Wobbles replied the topic: #2 7 months 1 week ago

DarkSamus wrote: I own 2 of the Wireless adaptors but only have 1 controller.
As soon as I pick up a second DS4 I'll report back on how 2 controllers via 2x USB adapters works with Inputmapper


I think somebody else mentioned it worked great, but its nice to get confirmation.
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DarkSamus replied the topic: #3 7 months 1 week ago
I own 2 of the Wireless adaptors but only have 1 controller.
As soon as I pick up a second DS4 I'll report back on how 2 controllers via 2x USB adapters works with Inputmapper
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Wobbles replied the topic: #4 7 months 1 week ago
I don't really bash them, they just take away a lot of options when it comes to locating the antenna if you want it say on top of your TV via a USB extension. That and the fact that the majority of users who have onboard BT are mobile users who also at the same time use the onboard WiFi, which creates a nightmare.
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Baaron replied the topic: #5 7 months 1 week ago
I know you bash bluetooth chips, but ever since i went into dev manager and disabled the wifi part of the chip - it performs marvelously, i have a bluetooth mouse by HP connected, with controller, whch also has a mouse enabled, and both work perfectly well through 2 walls, the chip comes with 2 antennas, and installs into the motherboard, mine came preinstalled
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Wobbles replied the topic: #6 7 months 1 week ago
There shouldn't be any difference.
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Moregaze replied the topic: #7 7 months 1 week ago
I have no problem with on board Bluetooth that came with the mobo. It is far more stable then when I had a USB adapter on my old rig. Would be interesting to see that compared to the dongles.
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Wobbles replied the topic: #8 7 months 1 week ago
So the behavior you experienced with the extension is common. Since BT operates a such a weak signal level (2.5mw), things that don't typically effect wireless signals can play havoc with BT, such as being in close proximity to a power supply, motherboard, cpu etc. The extension doesn't "boost" the signal, it just moves it away from devices that interfere. I myself plug mine into the USB hub that sits on top of my desk, a good 3ft away from my tower.
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Mustafa replied the topic: #9 7 months 1 week ago

Wobbles wrote: There is no faster, BT pooling speed is BT pooling speed regardless of the dongle used.

There are Class 1 dongles (100mw) that could in theory help with signal strength, but I have yet to find one that is a Broadcom compatible chipset.


Thanks, by the way, I was writing an EDIT to that post above. Do read it and let me know what you think.
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Wobbles replied the topic: #10 7 months 1 week ago
There is no faster, BT pooling speed is BT pooling speed regardless of the dongle used.

There are Class 1 dongles (100mw) that could in theory help with signal strength, but I have yet to find one that is a Broadcom compatible chipset.
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Mustafa replied the topic: #11 7 months 1 week ago
Are there Bluetooth Dongle's available that provide equal to or better signal strength than the Sony one? I have a small Asus one I've been using for a couple of years but I wish there was a bigger/better/faster option available that provides better performance, range, and lower latency.

EDIT:

I'm using the ASUS USB-BT211, plugged into the USB Extension wire that comes with the Logitech Wireless controllers which for some reasons acts as a MASSIVE signal booster. Because if plugged directly to PC the responsiveness and latency is HORRIBLE! But plugged into this extension it's amazing. By the way you should test this magic signal boost extension and see for yourself with other Bluetooth dongles. Do you know which one I mean?

The extension cable that comes with the Logitech F710, unplug their own bluetooth dongle and PLUG in whichever one you're currently using and check out the latency difference between plugging in directly to PC, verses this cable.
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Wobbles replied the topic: #12 7 months 1 week ago

Midboy wrote: Can you connect 2 sony dongles tp play with 2 controllers wirelessly ?

Unknown, but from the verbiage in Sony's PR regarding the dongle "once controller per dongle", it leads me to believe that yes, you can have multiple dongles.

Midboy wrote: Can you connect 1 controller via bluetooth and the other via aonya dongle ?

Yes, you can have multiple different connection types at once, but BT being the weaker of the 2 signals can be easily drowned out if in close proximity

Midboy wrote: If so, Can you emulate only the bluetooth controllers and keep the dongles controller non xinput emulated ??

You can create a profile and assign it to the Sony dongle controller that has emulated device turned off.
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Midboy replied the topic: #13 7 months 2 weeks ago
Can you connect 2 sony dongles tp play with 2 controllers wirelessly ?

Can you connect 1 controller via bluetooth and the other via aonya dongle ?

If so, Can you emulate only the bluetooth controllers and keep the dongles controller non xinput emulated ??